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		<title>The Stolen Queen by Fiona Davis is an Adventure in Time and Place without the Jetlag</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I loved my chat with author Fiona Davis about her bestselling novel, The Stolen Queen. This is Fiona’s 8th novel. She didn’t start writing novels until she was 45 and her first national bestseller, The Lions of Fifth Avenue, came out eight years later  when Fiona was 53.  Each of her books is set in...</p>
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<p class="Script">I loved my chat with author Fiona Davis about her bestselling novel, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Stolen-Queen-A-Novel/dp/B0D1ZN9N5Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=172TTHVAHT1VS&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Zi7CIVbGX29ujQPJrnQUnaGNiIntdNxf-frJwuOZ-uorGxTnhABlcskqwol1dlzaHlvH1OTV_7DS1Z5-BZTcNumHFW05APdPC65-8AMvkWmtdZTjgoXcJIAtMHbdxvWp_DJNRlLKqOyTdljQjxrlYn49MPjQSYBqQTmjlov5gAwHq35HDXo5IoCDAy5OeaHGAMK4IHfdThG9yA9kVVYLFw.KneOU83u1l8W4yDzgz8w88afKYXC2Qzheg6LKbH0jhk&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+stolen+queen&amp;qid=1763817093&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=the+stolen+queen%2Caudible%2C187&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Stolen Queen</a>. This is Fiona’s 8<sup>th</sup> novel. She didn’t start writing novels until she was 45 and her first national bestseller, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lions-Fifth-Avenue-Novel/dp/B085PXWQJ4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=56EQCNJW6CZO&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BDQx2FVaXNTV6R2viB88CWIfx2vt3bwMQnKVi8VjWxIkye5cr_mGLf2xviehq6YEVCFb2XpfrFGx5DuYc2KAYpwPLEEbRRkCctfPkuXTCAQZ5T9yVYEU-Ug4057nn9lM_i6-6zGti2IbFhI9FIyb1tfGSOYeqZw6Ljal9tgeYmUdV1zJMfrnM7tqu5CnfamThHua5o3FhuhCwKphhR29rAhrrXPMUKGKqRenHDS4gDY.h1XuIXPUYgIViERVOeLvUGtlYzguMfZlhG4YjxOBsv8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+lions+of+fifth+avenue&amp;qid=1763817055&amp;sprefix=the+lions+of+fifth+avenue%2Caps%2C204&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Lions of Fifth Avenue</a>, came out eight years later  when Fiona was 53.  Each of her books is set in a New York City landmark from Radio City Music Hall to The Chelsea Hotel to the New York Public Library. Below is just an edited snippet from our conversation. You can listen to the full episode <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com/p/ep-36-unveiling-hidden-histories" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a> on <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elena Meets the Author</a> or wherever you listen to podcasts.</p>
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<p class="Script">The Stolen Queen follows a dual-timeline story taking us first to New York in 1978 where a 60-year-old, shy, studious woman named Charlotte Cross, working as a curator at the Metropolitan Museum, is unwillingly teamed up with a 19-year-old overexcited staffer for the Met Ball named Annie to track down a stolen artifact. These two women could not be more different and to Cairo they go. There&#8217;s a cameo from Diana Vreeland who made the Met Ball what it is. Fiona called her &#8216;a tornado&#8217; of a woman.</p>
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<p class="Script">Fiona’s fast-paced, detail-rich novel, which she describes as part <em>Indiana Jones</em>, part <em>Thelma and Louise</em> and part <em>The Devil Wears Prada</em>, made me want to hop on a plane to Cairo. I wanted to experience the hazy sand-filled orange sky, the ancient tombs in the Valley of the Kings, and the chaotic maize-like streets of Cairo.</p>
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<p>We travel back in time to 1936 Egypt where a much younger 18-year-old Charlotte heads to Egypt as part of her university studies to be the Girl Friday for a group of archaeologists. There, tragedy strikes causing Charlotte to flee Egypt, never to return again until fate intervenes 42 years later, ie 1978.</p>
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<p class="Script"><strong>Elena: What is your process? Do you start with the story or the building?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script">The building definitely. I was a journalist before I started writing fiction, and so doing all that research is important to me. That’s where all my story ideas come from.  I try and not think about characters or story, just let the history wash over me and little details will start to stick. It&#8217;s just a matter of doing enough research and trusting my gut.</p>
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<p class="Script">For the research on the New York Public Library for <em>The Lions of Fifth Avenue</em>, I found that they built a seven-room apartment deep inside the library for the super and his family to live in. They lived there for 30 years. Their daughter was born in the library.  I read that and thought, okay, a family living in the library, where do I go from there?</p>
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<p class="Script"><strong> Elena: And for The Stolen Queen, what sparked that story?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> I saw that the pharaoh Hatshepsut had a whole gallery at the Met and realised wow, this was an important woman. And then I learned about how she was really lost to history.  That’s one of the things I&#8217;m drawn to, every book I&#8217;ve done, there&#8217;s been some character inspired by a woman who got shafted.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b>  <strong>Can you tell us a little bit about Hatshepsut?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> Hatshepsut was Egyptian royalty. She married her half-brother at the age of 12 as one did in Egyptian royalty. He died not long after and she didn&#8217;t have a son. And so, the, the crown went to the son of one of the concubines, but it was a baby.</p>
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<p class="Script">So, in the meantime, Hatshepsut stepped up and became the regent. And she ruled as the Pharaoh for 20 years, very successfully. There were all these advances, peace and prosperity. And then she died. And at some point, her stepson, who came to power, ordered many of her statues destroyed, her images hacked out of any reliefs. And so because of that, Hatshepsut was really lost to history. People knew she ruled, but they didn&#8217;t know much about her.</p>
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<p class="Script">And it wasn&#8217;t until the Met team were doing a dig in the 1920s, they found this huge quarry filled with her statues and realized, she must have been very important. But what happened? And they said, well, it must&#8217;ve been that the stepson was angry that she ruled for so long.  The Met catalog described her in the fifties as a vain, ambitious, unscrupulous woman and a detested stepmother.</p>
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<p class="Script">But then 10 years later a scholar found that the destruction had to have happened at least 24 years after her death which is a long time to hold a grudge. And they realized, no, it was about the line of succession. The stepson wanted his son to rule and didn&#8217;t want the idea of a female pharaoh out in the zeitgeist. So that&#8217;s why he did it. Her journey as a woman pharaoh has been fraught in a way that male pharaohs rarely are.</p>
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<p class="Script">Not only did this book make me want to explore far-flung locales, but it also made me want to consider exploring what’s closer to home, namely The Metropolitan Museum of Art. Fiona’s web site has a <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/566f1854d82d5ef0c161ea5e/t/67af8d8ed48fa4109a5f0da9/1739558306179/THE+STOLEN+QUEEN+Scavenger+Hunt+%281%29+%281%29.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">scavenger hunt page</a> where several objects mentioned in<em> The Stolen Queen</em> can be found at the Met. It’s quite a fun post-read activity.</p>
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<p class="Script">My favorite object on the Met scavenger hunt was the <em>Fragment of a Queen&#8217;s Face</em> which in the novel is called the Cerulean Queen, linked to a fictional pharaoh Hathorkare who is based on the real life pharaoh Hatshepsut.</p>
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<p>Second favorite was the broad collar:</p>
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<p class="Script"><strong>What do you hope readers take away from your book?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script">If you like going to museums, or even if you don&#8217;t like going to museums, the key is to go and look at a museum, like the Met, not as a collection of objects, but as a collection of stories. Get a guide, join a tour, let the experts tell you about these objects. It gives you a much better sense of time, place, where we are now versus what things were like then.</p>
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<p class="Script"><strong>Elena: Did you always know you wanted to write a book?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> Never. No way. I loved reading, but never could have written a book. It wasn&#8217;t until I was about 45 and started. I had a story idea that I couldn&#8217;t shake and I wanted to read the book. And so I thought, I&#8217;ll just try writing, but I won&#8217;t tell a soul. No one will know. And that did eventually morph into my first book and I&#8217;m glad I waited. because when I was younger, I had nothing to say on the page. I hadn&#8217;t really lived life enough.</p>
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<p class="Script"><em>November, 2025</em></p>
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		<title>Marjan Kamali talks about The Lion Women of Tehran</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p> I spoke with Marjan Kamali about her award-winning bestselling terrific novel, The Lion Women of Tehran. Above all, this book is a great story. It traces the lives of two childhood friends in Tehran in the 1950’s who come from very different backgrounds, and yet their bond seems indestructible. We follow these two girls, Homa...</p>
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<p class="Script"> I spoke with Marjan Kamali about her award-winning bestselling terrific novel, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+lion+women+of+tehran&amp;i=audible&amp;crid=231O3L25ONH2M&amp;sprefix=the+lion+women+of+tehran%2Caudible%2C71&amp;ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-expert-pd-ops-ranker_1_24" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Lion Women of Tehran</a>. Above all, this book is a great story. It traces the lives of two childhood friends in Tehran in the 1950’s who come from very different backgrounds, and yet their bond seems indestructible.</p>
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<p class="Script">We follow these two girls, Homa and Ellie as adventurous, playful seven-year-olds through to adolescence and young adulthood and beyond. We learn about their hopes and dreams, losses and struggles, joys and sorrows. And we read about how the seemingly indestructible friendship is jeopardized by a single act of betrayal.</p>
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<p class="Script">Marjan’s writing makes me feel like I am smack in the middle of these neighbourhoods, uptown, downtown, the schools, the bizarre, the parties. I felt the freedom these girls enjoyed walking down the street in their stylish clothes in the sixties and seventies with their beehive hairdos. This makes the eighties after the revolution in 1979 when Iranian women lost all those freedoms that much more painful. The new government listens in on phone calls, reads private letters, spies, imprisons protesters. Importantly, Marjan is careful to keep the turbulent and violent times in the background of her story, while the tale of how these young girls grew up to become amazing women is always in the foreground.</p>
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<p class="Script">Below are some edited abbreviated highlights from our conversation. You can listen to the full Q&amp;A <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com/p/unveiling-the-lion-women-of-tehran" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a> on my podcast <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elena Meets the Author</a>.</p>
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<p class="Script">Elena: Marjan, hello and welcome to the show.</p>
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<p class="Script">Marjan: Hello, Elena. Thank you so much for having me.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b><strong> I am so happy to have you. I got lost in the world of these girls as they grew up and their friendship blossomed and then was severely tested. It’s all about the story. </strong><strong>It&#8217;s a great way to learn about history without really realizing you&#8217;re learning about history, if you know what I mean.</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Marjan:</b> That&#8217;s the best way to learn about history. I really think books save us. They keep us grounded and they keep us tethered. And stories for me are the best way to learn about the news and history because you get a deeper perspective, a deeper education. I could read an article in the newspaper, and I can read the headlines, but when I read a book,  I&#8217;m immersed in the story, I really feel like I get to know that world.</p>
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<p class="Script">You can time travel through books. There&#8217;s also a lot of therapy in reading because you feel less alone and you see how other people have felt what you felt, even if they live on the other side of the planet. It’s just a very immersive and healing experience.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b><strong> I read that you were working on another story when the idea for this novel came to you. Can you tell us about that?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script">Yes. After, my second novel, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Stationery-Shop-Marjan-Kamali-audiobook/dp/B07L3B8RN2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15CT3EI2G7PBM&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ST4b4y_Iauc1YFsLLCZWL7Qoxl5IgoH1dMlMs8ykCWss1B6Ialj9RDX1pq6Dil5xeBETWoWf-JdPcHfEQDjH1FP5Ip2cMvAQZ00SUaEP3gQ.SwSPE2zHjDuCb-1UhFbIXoGGtRHhyIxRVe7TDtbaRpY&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+stationery+shop&amp;qid=1754418438&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=the+stationary+shop%2Caudible%2C74&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Stationery Shop</a> came out my career changed because that book was a bestseller, and I felt under great pressure to write the next one.  I had written over a hundred pages of this other novel about moms in suburbia and firstborns going off to college.</p>
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<p class="Script">But when the pandemic happened, I found some posts on Instagram of my own childhood friend and seeing her face again just brought back so many memories for me. I was flooded with not just memories but emotions.  I felt as though I could remember the texture of our friendship. I could remember her mom.  I remembered how we used to play together every day and share our dreams. And I realized how these friendships we make in childhood really shape us because. Her influence on my life has lasted even though the friendship hasn&#8217;t. And so, I just thought again about how friendship breakups are just as heart wrenching as romantic ones.</p>
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<p class="Script">Except we don&#8217;t have as many songs for them although my daughter tells me Taylor Swift does.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b><strong> lol</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> But what I knew in my heart then was that I really wanted to write the story of a broken friendship. So, I had to take a deep breath, put aside that other book that I had started to write, and that&#8217;s when I started <i>The Lion Women of Tehran.</i></p>
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<p class="Script">I made up Ellie and Homa. And I deliberately made them born the year my mother was born -1943- because by doing that, I could show the arc in the background of the women&#8217;s rights movement in Iran.</p>
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<p class="Script">The Women&#8217;s Rights Movement in Iran officially began in the 1920s. That&#8217;s when the first women&#8217;s rights organizations began. So, throughout the twenties, thirties, forties, women were working hard organizing. And then in Iran, a lot changed in the fifties, which coincides with Ellie and Homa&#8217;s burgeoning friendship and their girlhood.</p>
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<p class="Script">And then as they come of age in the sixties, women got the right to vote, and then a lot of laws which were harmful to women changed to benefit them, such as the age of marriage, divorce laws, child custody laws, a lot of things. And so, we see as Ellie and Homa become women, how their womanhood sort of echoes this expanded world.</p>
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<p class="Script">And then in the seventies, so much of that freedom is taken for granted, but then those rights are later taken away. So that&#8217;s a movement in the background. But the core of the story is this friendship between these two girls who later grow up to become women.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b><strong> I really loved the beginning when they become friends age seven, playing hopscotch, that annoying boy, spirited Homa doing pranks on studious Ellie.  It was all so believable. We all were seven at one point.</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> I feel it&#8217;s such a fleeting time in real life. But also, on the page in a lot of adult novels, we don&#8217;t spend too much time in girlhood. But I think this time that you&#8217;re mentioning – girlhood – is when the sassiness and innocence and confidence is still there in girls before it gets eroded with adolescence and all those insecurities.</p>
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<p class="Script">It&#8217;s such a special time and I really enjoyed writing those scenes and being there with Ellie and Homa, like you said, when they&#8217;re playing hopscotch or just having their first ‘play date’ The first time you go to a friend&#8217;s house is your foray into the world outside of your family, and that strong bond that you create with a friend sometimes is like a blueprint for later romantic relationships because you are learning how to navigate the world that doesn&#8217;t associate you with your own family in any way.</p>
<p class="Script">So, when Ellie goes to Homa&#8217;s house, it&#8217;s really the first time she&#8217;s not in a relative&#8217;s house. She’s thinking, so this is how this family functions. This is what their kitchen is like. This is what her mother is like. It&#8217;s a way to open your eyes to blueprints of family dynamics that you maybe didn&#8217;t know existed.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <strong>Totally. Your descriptions of Tehran back in the fifties are so authentic. I imagine your mother must have been a good source.</strong></p>
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<p class="Script">Yes. It&#8217;s always a compliment slash slight shock when a reader writes to me and says, I love how you brought to life your childhood in the 1950s.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> I hate that.</p>
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<p class="Script"> On the one hand, it&#8217;s a huge compliment. On the other hand, it&#8217;s like, hmm, how old do I look?</p>
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<p class="Script">I was in a position of privilege because I had access to all these people in my family who had lived In Tehran in the 1950s before I was born. I only lived in Iran for a very short time, so I bugged every known relative, and a lot of people didn&#8217;t want to speak to me. They&#8217;re like, oh my goodness, enough with the questions. I don&#8217;t know, we just did what we did. We lived our lives.</p>
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<p class="Script">And I&#8217;d be like, no, but can you please explain to me what you were wearing and what your shoes looked like? And where in particular did you eat when you were in college? Did you go out? Did you eat in the cafeteria?  I bugged a lot of people, but yes, for the Lion Women of Tehran, my mom was my number one victim, and she did speak to me.</p>
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<p class="Script">So, Ellie and Homa go to my mother&#8217;s high school. She described it for me, and I needed to know how were you seated in the classroom? Did you each have a desk? Did you share a desk? Like, tell me about the layout and the teachers. And particularly as you mentioned, I needed to know everything about what they ate because I am a foodie and so it really interested me.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> Homa and Ellie are very different people. Homa is from a modest background. She doesn&#8217;t care about wealth. She wants to be a judge. When she grows up, she wants to right unfairness wherever she sees it.</p>
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<p class="Script">Ellie&#8217;s family has a lot more money. Ellie is prettier and Ellie marries Mehrdad, the boy everyone has a crush on and yet Ellie is jealous of Homa from the first time they meet when she sees that Homa is missing her two front teeth. And Ellie wishes she was missing some teeth too. <strong>Can you talk about their friendship and what attracted one to the other?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> Ellie, to begin with, perhaps by nature or perhaps by the nurture of her narcissistic mother, she has a jealous trait. So, Ellie is almost primed to be jealous. When they&#8217;re seven years old in that first scene when they meet, Ellie isn&#8217;t that into Homa. She&#8217;s like, who is this girl? She&#8217;s annoying me. She&#8217;s poking me, she&#8217;s giggling. Where&#8217;s the friend I thought I would meet?</p>
<p class="Script">But Ellie can&#8217;t help but be won over by Homa because Homa has a characteristic that Ellie covets. Homa is unabashedly herself. She&#8217;s comfortable in her skin. She has nothing to hide, nothing to cover. She is not insecure. She&#8217;s a confident soul and she believes what she believes. She doesn&#8217;t feel as though she needs to adjust or tweak in any way, which Ellie does. So, I think Ellie is very much attracted to Homa’s natural charisma and to Homa&#8217;s confidence and how she feels comfortable in her skin.</p>
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<p class="Script">And what does Homa see in Ellie? Homa has that proverbial heart of gold and maybe she senses Ellie&#8217;s discomfort. Maybe Homa is one of those people whose vibrations are tuned to other people&#8217;s pretty well, and she sees this girl and she&#8217;s nice and she just wants to, basically, initially just wants to play hopscotch.</p>
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<p class="Script">And then I think she sees a lot of potential in Ellie that&#8217;s being unmet and she&#8217;s no fool Homa. She knows that Ellie&#8217;s family life is worse than hers, even though Ellie ends up having more money and initially had more money. Homa knows Ellie craves having a father and that Ellie deep down wishes she had a different mother. So, I think Homa is just very empathetic and takes Ellie into her fold.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <strong>How did you balance the historical accuracy with the storytelling? </strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> In writing historical fiction, and particularly in writing historical fiction about Iran, I have to be very accurate. So, I did not make up any historical events.</p>
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<p class="Script">I don&#8217;t want to make up a historical event that did not exist for the purposes of my story. So, everything I write about that’s historical happened. Ellie and Homa, I made up their friendship. I made up their families. But the women&#8217;s march that happened in Iran in March 1979, I did not make up.</p>
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<p class="Script">Thousands of women did march in the streets for days on end because they were worried about what may come. And so, the revolution, the war, all those things are historically accurate, and fact checked.</p>
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<p class="Script">Now here&#8217;s what I think about the balance. If you want to read a history book, then you are going to read a history book. There are many excellent history books about what happened in any country.</p>
<p class="Script">But if you are reading fiction, I think that a reader wants a story. They&#8217;re there for the story and for the characters. So personally, as a writer, I like the historical events to serve as a background and for the relationship between the characters to serve as the foreground. I always think back to what EL Doctorow said, and if I may name drop at this moment, he was my professor at my creative writing MFA program at NYU.</p>
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<p class="Script">He said history shows us what happened, but fiction shows us how what happened, make people feel. And I am so much more interested in that. How did that make the people feel? How did that affect a friendship? How did that affect a romance? How did that affect a parent-child relationship? That kind of a thing.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <strong> Can we talk about your title<em>, The Lion Women of Tehran</em>. Homa is clearly a lioness as she fights to protect women to the end, but are there other ways to be a lioness, more subtle ways? Would you say the term lioness applies to other characters your book?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> Yes, I would. You know, of the two friends, Homa is the easy lion woman because you just look at her. She has a sense of social justice from when she&#8217;s a kid. She becomes an activist at a very young age. She sees an injustice; she wants to fix it. She&#8217;s out on the streets marching.</p>
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<p class="Script">But I think you can be a lioness even if you don&#8217;t do all those things. So, when we think of Ellie, Ellie wants to be pretty and loved and to marry a really nice guy and to have children and to enjoy the simple pleasures of life or what Homa would dub the bourgeois pleasures of life.</p>
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<p class="Script">But that&#8217;s who she is. And I think she is also a lion woman because it takes an extraordinary amount of courage to live a very ordinary life, to be at home holding down the fort, to be the wife, to be the mother, as though that&#8217;s a simple job, which it&#8217;s not at all. And so yes, Ellie is also a lion woman.</p>
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<p class="Script">Through my readers, I have learned that some believe Ellie&#8217;s mother to be a lion woman. And that surprised me because I didn&#8217;t. She started off being such an archetype of a narcissistic parent, but they showed me the parts of her that did require a tremendous amount of courage as well.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <strong>What would you like readers to take away from the book?</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> Ideally, I hope that this read is healing because Homa goes through a lot, Ellie goes through a lot.,  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the fact that we don&#8217;t have losses in life because we all have losses in life. We all experience loss, but it&#8217;s the way you balance the losses in your life with the gains in your life that matters.</p>
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<p class="Script">And I feel that Ellie and Homa heal and so I hope it&#8217;s healing to finish the book.</p>
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<p class="Script">The other thing I hope readers take away is that freedom is fragile. Freedom is not guaranteed. There was a time which we see in the book when women thought they were good. They were done; they were guaranteed these rights. And then we see that the pendulum can swing, and those rights can be taken away. I cannot tell you the disbelief and the incredulous aspect of this. Before the revolution people were like, of course that wouldn&#8217;t happen here. Are you kidding me? That can&#8217;t happen here. Look at us. We are the most progressive, westernized country in this region. Those things can change. It is scary because you just don&#8217;t realize how quickly things can change.</p>
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<p class="Script">And the last  thing I hope they take away is really the lasting influence of friendship. You don&#8217;t need to stay in touch. You don&#8217;t need to continue the friendship for that friendship&#8217;s influence to matter and to shape you as a person.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> Thank you so much, Marjan. I really enjoyed talking to you. I so appreciate your taking the time. Thank you.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Marjan:</b> Thank you so much. I&#8217;ve really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for having me.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> Pleasure, pleasure, pleasure.</p>
<p><em>August, 2025</em></p>
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		<title>The Love Elixir of Augusta Stern: A Chat with Lynda Loigman About Her Latest Novel</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of speaking to Lynda Cohen Loigman, whose latest book, The Love Elixir of Augusta Stern is going on my rolling top 10 books. Check out my Instagram page Elena Meets the Author and this website for my rolling top 10 favorite reads. Hello Lynda, this is not the first time I&#8217;ve...</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-weight: 400;">I had the pleasure of speaking to Lynda Cohen Loigman, whose latest book, <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-Elixir-Augusta-Stern-Novel/dp/B0CWB3HYQF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=7XW4AV2TVKWW&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yO4JMgGqR3OaOu-Ea9JZ1g.35aMAG05kDq0TOJL-qeK9VNoRapi4eqmaHLGPnq4Vjc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+love+elixir+of+augusta+stern&amp;qid=1745414481&amp;sprefix=the+love+elixir%2Caps%2C183&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Love Elixir of Augusta Stern</a> is going on my rolling top 10 books. Check out my Instagram page Elena Meets the Author and this website for my rolling top 10 favorite reads.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Hello Lynda, this is not the first time I&#8217;ve interviewed you. I interviewed you back in January of 2023 about <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Matchmakers-Gift-A-Novel/dp/B09YJ43P8W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1DWMUZFJ8S53K&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VzApQdn-Mhdv4b1JUlzOdQ.-s0bDcp4VX1rh3YRsFnkotR1QHCl5P8XbQ5YvTQ5De8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+matchmaker%27s+gift&amp;qid=1745413370&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=the+matchmaker%27s+gift%2Caudible%2C168&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Matchmaker&#8217;s Gift</a>, another great book of yours.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">I tend to listen to books on walks and/or read in bed at night. With <em>The Love Elixir of Augusta Stern</em> I couldn&#8217;t wait to go on a walk or get in  bed. This book is a clever feel-good romance with its colourful characters, strong sense of place, imaginative plot line, and dual timeline.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Alternating between a pharmacy in 1920s, Brooklyn, and a drama-filled retirement home in Florida in 1987. It&#8217;s a story about second chances, how whether we&#8217;re 16 or 76 inside, we&#8217;re still the same person, and how it&#8217;s always possible to recapture that magical feeling of our youth. The story is full of old-world charm, suspense, history, and it&#8217;s very funny.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Aunt Esther and Irving Rivkin had me chuckling throughout. There are some bootlegging gangsters thrown in with Mitzi and Zip Diamond in their furs and fancy cars. The book starts with 79-year-old Augusta Stern, who works for a hospital in New York City. She loves to work and has been lying about her age for decades until on the eve of her 80th birthday, her boss tells her in so many words that it&#8217;s time for Augusta to move on. Augusta hates the idea of retirement but has no choice. So, on the suggestion of her beloved niece, Augusta moves to her retirement community in Florida. No sooner has she arrived than who should she bump into, but the man who broke her heart 60 years ago.</p>
<p>Below are some edited highlights from our chat. You can listen to the full conversation <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com/p/elena-meets-lynda" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a> on <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elena Meets the Author</a> or wherever you listen to podcasts.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena: So, Lynda let&#8217;s start with what inspired you to write this wonderful book.</strong> Your author&#8217;s note is fabulous and anyone reading <em>The Love Elixir</em> might want to skip to the back of the book and read that first.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Lynda:</strong> The inspiration really came from two different places. The initial idea for a story about an aging pharmacist came from what I had learned about my husband&#8217;s great-grandmother. She was a pharmacist. She graduated from Fordham Pharmacy College in 1921, which was a very unusual thing. There were very few women in her class.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">But I didn’t really have a story. I keep story ideas in my head. I have this imaginary basket of ideas I keep in my head.  And then I wrote <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Matchmakers-Gift-A-Novel/dp/B09YJ43P8W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BIGKIEDQVDD3&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iK3pS4gorqR6cRz6lz8ZO9mXzneDL4Y1fUnwkkXbs7I.fvxyLxgu8U6w3UlZ7BnNzh_MP8Qj40km12H4bPapIPc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+matchmakers+gift&amp;qid=1745414644&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=the+matchmakers+gift%2Caudible%2C174&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>The Matchmaker&#8217;s Gift</em></a> and that was the first book where I added a little bit of magical realism to my writing. It was definitely a more joyful story than my first two books and more heartwarming.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">After I wrote that book, a lot of readers wrote to me or told me in person how much they loved it, how it brought them all this joy. Before writing that book. I had never really thought about that. I thought about what I wanted my stories to say. I thought about the messages that I wanted to convey in my stories, but I never really thought about the emotional impact on the reader.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I always want to make people cry for better or for worse. If a reader&#8217;s crying, that&#8217;s good, it means they&#8217;re connecting. But I never thought about getting people through tough times, making people feel happy. And I wanted to write another story like that.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">But I still really had no story.  In the summer of 2021 my dad, who was 84, had a bad fall. He lived in Florida on his own. He was in rehab; he was in the hospital.  It&#8217;s a very familiar story to anybody who&#8217;s my age. I’m in my mid-fifties.  I was down in Florida that whole summer, and he needed an aid. He couldn&#8217;t do anything really on his own anymore.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">By the end of the summer, my brother and I decided we had to move him to assisted living, and he was very reluctant at first because he was thinking about the nursing homes of his grandparents&#8217; time. But when we went to look at these places, he got more excited because my dad was a really social person, and he liked being with people. And so, I moved him there. Every time I would visit him; I would sit with him in the lobby.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">It was like a middle school cafeteria. Everyone was gathering there and there was a lot of chitter chatter and flirting and gossiping and all kinds of stuff. My dad was looking for companionship up until the day he died. He had dated a lot of women throughout the 15 years that he had after my mom died.  And some of the relationships were really nice and some were not. Some of the women were nice and some were not.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I had this moment of panic the first day that I moved him into the assisted living place: What if one of the women who he had dated previously, where it had ended badly, what if she lived there?</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Wouldn&#8217;t that be very awkward and very bad? And that was sort of where the beginnings of the story came from. Augusta lives in a very active retirement community, not assisted living, but same idea, right? You know, you&#8217;re in this small community looking back at someone from your past, who&#8217;s staring you in the face, who you don&#8217;t want to be with.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">The voices of Irving and Augusta came to me sitting there that summer, spending time with my dad, sitting with him and all those residents.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Tell us more about the decision to set your story in a 1920’s pharmacy?</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">  I wasn&#8217;t really sure about the year to tell you the truth. Picking the year is always one of the trickiest parts. It was that way for <em>The Matchmaker&#8217;s Gift</em> also.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I wasn&#8217;t wedded to the twenties until I learned about the effect of prohibition and the connection between prohibition and pharmacies. Pharmacies were one of the few places where it was legally allowed to sell alcohol. You could get a prescription for one pint of whiskey every 10 days for medicinal purposes. I found this article about how to be a bootlegger, and it talked about how gangsters at that time would create fake pharmacies on paper to be able to get the good whiskey and sell it.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And then they would flood a pharmacy with fake prescriptions or just steal the shipment from the alley. They would kind of do anything.  I love a gangster story. The idea that I could have a little side gangster story got me really excited.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">So, I decided the twenties would be perfect. And then there was one other thing, which I knew from the beginning. It isn&#8217;t a spoiler because it happens in the first few pages of the book. Augusta&#8217;s mother dies when she&#8217;s very young. I wanted her to die from something that medicine would be able to cure, but not at that time. Diabetes was the perfect answer because insulin wasn&#8217;t available until the early twenties. Before that, diabetes was really a death sentence. People starved themselves to death and their bodies couldn&#8217;t go on. And so, this idea that Solomon Stern, Augusta&#8217;s father, is a man who&#8217;s focused on medicine and science, and the idea that he would have every possible medicine at his disposal except the one thing that might save his wife, was a fascinating, heartbreaking idea to me, and it shaped his character.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">When writing a story. I want something dramatic like that. It was the perfect thing to happen to Solomon Stern, to create a man who we&#8217;re instantly interested in and feel empathy for.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Your story made me think of my grandmother Ruth Garland Bowes who was one of the first women to graduate from Stanford Medical School in the early 1920’s. While at Stanford she worked on a groundbreaking study on diabetes, partly to help two of her brothers who were stricken with the illness. She was able to significantly improve and extend their lives. She died a long time ago, but I remember her telling my sisters and I stories about her time at Stanford and as a physician</strong>.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"> Wow, that&#8217;s so fascinating.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong>  <strong>I know. I was thinking the twenties is a very ripe period.</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">  There are so many things that are different, but you know, people are the same. You know, there&#8217;s a character who gets pregnant out of wedlock. Some readers think that you can&#8217;t have an unmarried woman getting pregnant. Like that didn&#8217;t happen in the twenties, but it happened all the time. Human nature is human nature. People made mistakes back then the same way they do now.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Can you talk about the role the pharmacy played in the community?</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">I read a lot of memoirs by pharmacists, and I talked to as many pharmacists as I could talk to about the old pharmacies. People didn&#8217;t go to doctors first. If you had a rash, a stomach problem, whatever it was, you went to your pharmacist first. And they would make their own, specific creams based on what you told them.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">They were like your priest, your confessor, your rabbi and your therapist, all rolled up into one. Solomon Stern was definitely that for people. So, he really talks about how important it is to keep people&#8217;s confidence. It&#8217;s one of the things that he stresses to Augusta that you don&#8217;t talk about the customers.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Thank God Augusta could eavesdrop.</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"> Yes. Pharmacists tended to live above the shop. One of the things I found fascinating was the night bell. In an emergency,  customers could come and ring the bell, and it would ring up in the apartment.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">There were a lot of stories in the memoirs about how annoyed pharmacists would get when someone would ring in the middle of the night for something that was not an emergency, like needing a stamp.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And there were a lot of interesting anecdotes about how important it was to know your customer, because people would ask for things with the intent to misuse them. So, if Mr. Smith comes in and he&#8217;s asking for arsenic for his wife&#8217;s complexion, but Mrs. Smith&#8217;s complexion is white. (They used arsenic to whiten skin).  And Mr. Smith has been seen around town with some floozy. The pharmacist should know not to be giving the arsenic to Mr. Smith.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Aunt Esther said that if she were a man, she would&#8217;ve been called an apothecary or a pharmacist. But instead, because she was a woman, she was called a witch.  Tell us about her.</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">Aunt Esther is a fascinating character. She comes into their home because their mother is gone. The house is falling apart, the dust on the mantle is an inch thick and they&#8217;re having terrible meals.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Aunt Esther is from Russia, the old country. But she&#8217;s a newer immigrant. She&#8217;s been in this country for many years, going from relative to relative wherever she&#8217;s needed, a little like Mary Poppins. She comes to their household to help take care of everybody because their mother has died.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">She ends up teaching Augusta so much about healing. And so, her role is to go up against Augusta&#8217;s father. They don&#8217;t get along that well, and it makes Augusta think differently about her career. She&#8217;s always wanted to be a pharmacist, but now she sees that maybe the way her father does things isn&#8217;t the only way to do things, and maybe Aunt Esther can do things more effectively.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I leave it up to the reader to decide if Aunt Esther is a witch or if she is just really empathetic and knowledgeable about what she does.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>One of the things that you said at the beginning of this Q&amp;A is that it hadn&#8217;t occurred to you that you could bring joy to your readers. You really did that with this book</strong>.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">Thanks. I just feel like we need books like that now. I don&#8217;t want to teach anybody anything. I want to teach myself things. It&#8217;s interesting to do the research, but I just really want to tell a good story.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">There are books that can be beautifully written, they can be literary, whatever. But I want a good story. I want a story that you can sink into. And it doesn&#8217;t need to be so complicated. The more I write, the more I want to simplify my stories. Readers can relate to it when it&#8217;s not so intensely complicated. And this is a simple story. This woman moves to Florida, and she runs into the man who broke her heart 60 years earlier. That is the story. The more I write, the more I realize how important it is to know your story before you start writing.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>And Aunt Esther explains the power of words to Augusta. Can you talk about that?</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;">So, Aunt Esther has this mortar and pestle that she brings with her from the old country. And there are words written on the inside of it. She says those words every time she mixes up a powder to heal somebody. At some point, Augusta, asks her why she always says these words and why they&#8217;re important. And Esther says something like wicked words have caused wars and, kind words have caused peace. Words have broken hearts. Why shouldn&#8217;t they have the power to heal?</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I think when we speak something out loud, it makes it real. There&#8217;s something about the spoken word that is a really powerful thing.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>What thoughts would you like readers to take away from after they finish The Love Elixir?</strong></p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"> I think it&#8217;s very important to never give up on life. It&#8217;s this idea that it is never too late, but not necessarily for romance.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">One of the things that&#8217;s really special to me about this book is Augusta and Esther are two women who&#8217;ve chosen a very different path. Neither one of them has gotten married and neither one of them has had children. I think it&#8217;s important to have characters who don’t follow a traditional path.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Augusta didn&#8217;t have this romance when she was young. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that her life was tragic. She has had this amazing career that meant so much to her.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">When she gets to Florida, she opens herself up. She makes new friends. She finds romance and that&#8217;s important to this story, but it&#8217;s not the most important thing. She&#8217;s also practicing her craft in the way she&#8217;s always wanted to.</p>
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<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Well, thank you so much Lynda. That was really interesting.</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><em>April, 2025</em></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p> I met with Rochelle Weinstein, best-selling author of seven women&#8217;s fiction novels, including This Is Not How It Ends. Rochelle&#8217;s eighth novel, We Are Made of Stars, which releases on February 25th, is a romantic suspenseful page turner. It&#8217;s got everything. Characters who are hiding things, bad decisions, flawed people who love each other, betrayal...</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-weight: 400;"> I met with Rochelle Weinstein, best-selling author of seven women&#8217;s fiction novels, including <a href="https://www.amazon.com/This-Not-Ends-Rochelle-Weinstein-ebook/dp/B07NCY8CXD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1IU3PBEYKED16&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.GgoHWfXV0g4MO6kVz13DIg.CxyDHXHxyt7sUHG151YAkgUA42S1jdo9cvGxRqW25wc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=this+is+not+how+it+endsrochelle+b.+weinstein&amp;qid=1740161301&amp;sprefix=this+is+not+how+it+enrochelle+b.+weinstein%2Caps%2C256&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">This Is Not How It Ends.</a> Rochelle&#8217;s eighth novel, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Made-Stars-Novel-ebook/dp/B0D1L16C5Q/ref=sr_1_1?crid=8M56AVE4KZLJ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HROGm7nHEXzOuZFFxpG_fQ.XbXtSy1xMCONPLqrQ3F6X3x3ZCTwLj98eOo6oXkWwhc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=we+are+made+of+stars+rochelle+b.+weinstein&amp;qid=1740161249&amp;sprefix=we+are+made+%2Caps%2C267&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">We Are Made of Stars</a>, which releases on February 25<sup>th</sup>, is a romantic suspenseful page turner. It&#8217;s got everything. Characters who are hiding things, bad decisions, flawed people who love each other, betrayal and redemption, all taking place in an idyllic, magical inn in North Carolina.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Not only did I feel like I was on a vacation at this sumptuous inn, but the complex characters plus distinct back stories pulled me in. I liked watching their dramas unfold, building to a page turning emotional climax.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">A little background: Renée and Jean-Paul De La Rue face the daunting decision to close their beloved inn Vis Ta Vie for good. Meanwhile their 8 guests are facing their own struggles. Three couples are in crisis: Hollywood celebs, Leo and Penny, are spending their silver anniversary together while on the cusp of divorce.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Lucy, a practical minded therapist, and Henry, an astronomer with his head in the stars, are on the rocks. And former lawyer, now stay at home mother, Sienna, and dynamic sports agent, Adam, look perfect, but looks can be deceiving.  Add finally, self-absorbed single mother Cassidy and her sulky 15-year-old daughter, Rosalie are barely speaking.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Below are some edited highlights from my conversation with Rochelle. You can listen to the full episode <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/elenabowes/p/exploring-the-depths-of-womens-fiction?r=huv3q&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a> on my podcast Elena Meets the Author available wherever you listen to podcasts.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Rochelle, before we get into your book, can you tell us how you went from being a secret writer into a somewhat prolific one with eight books out there.</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Well, first, thank you, Elena, for having me. It&#8217;s a pleasure to be here. I was laughing when you were listing all the characters, because I&#8217;m like, Oh my God, how did I write all these characters and keep up with it?</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I was always a writer, a secretive journal writer back in the day. I was also a huge reader. I used to steal my mother&#8217;s Sidney Sheldon, Danielle Steele. I was reading those books when I was  about 10 years old.  I like to say that they raised me in a way. They were my salvation. They were healing for me. My parents were divorced at the time, so there were some lonely times.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And I felt such refuge in books. At the same time, I was the journal writer, and I never had the courage or the self-confidence to put any type of writing out in the world.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">My career path went an entirely different way. I was in the music business in South Beach in Miami and the company was bought and moved to New York City. I had just had twin boys. I&#8217;d always worked since the age of 14 and I felt I was at this career crossroads.  I always felt that I had a story to tell.  I literally sat down, wrote 110, 000 words of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/What-Leave-Behind-Rochelle-Weinstein-ebook/dp/B007GEJTZK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BWJWTSQAQCBB&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h5eHxog8arsONnqPPTbMXbyipbpL5sovPVwotNyT3JcrcGr7OlyIxW5FUhExHSv-jRpbs7hD0rB1O9g6opKtlg.EyeUuX7DXUM2d9cBvtgj9ecow11JbWyy0MDzn_VY8ag&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=what+we+leave+behind+rochelle+weinstein&amp;qid=1740070636&amp;sprefix=what+we+leave+behind+rochelle%2Caps%2C298&amp;sr=8-1">What We Leave Behind</a> and that was the start of a career. It was a lark that turned into something bigger than I had expected.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Wow. Did you have that story percolating for a while?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> There’s a lot of fiction and non-fiction in my first novel. A lot of it is my own self-discovery and the way I dealt with my parents’ divorce, the way I dealt with the men in my life and what I learned from years of work on myself.  I had a message that I really wanted to share with the world, and I felt like I could help other young women navigate through loss, insecurity and abandonment.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And I just basically fictionalized all these deep feelings into a story, and I made it entertaining</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Of these eight books you’ve written, is there a common theme or thread to all of them?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> There’s always some type of loss and resiliency, some emotional depth. There&#8217;s always a grey area. I like to explore the grey area.  I&#8217;m not a very black and white person. I see things in the shades of grey. I like to portray stories where we can see all sides and be able to show a little bit more compassion for the people around us.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>I read that the working title of this book was The Inn, and you described it as The Big Chill meets Nine Perfect Strangers. Can you elaborate on that?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> It&#8217;s so funny because as the iterations of this book have developed, now I like to say my elevator pitch is, One Week in Summer, Eight Lives Forever Changed. Think White Lotus Meets Virgin River.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena: How did you choose to set the novel in North Carolina?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> I live in South Florida, and we spent our summers in the mountains of North Carolina, starting at the age of four, when my single mom was head of Girls Hill, a sleepaway camp in Hendersonville, North Carolina.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And I lived for these summers in the mountains, the smell, the scenery. I&#8217;m a nature girl at heart. So fast forward, I got married, we had kids, we would take our kids to the mountains of North Carolina. We have a place that we go to in the summers in Beach Mountain.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And nearby there&#8217;s this inn called the Inn at Little Pond Farm. And the inn in my novel is based entirely on the inn at Little Pond Farm.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">They had a communal table, which only seated ten people, and you could end up talking to complete strangers while the gourmet chef would cook a five-course meal for you.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">What&#8217;s so incredible are the seeds that are planted at this table when you&#8217;re with strangers. I was fascinated by the interactions between the strangers and what you could learn, what you could find out about people, the people who didn&#8217;t like each other. I decided that I needed to write a story about the dynamics of this table. I felt like the table was just such a great starting point for a story.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>One of your character’s loves astronomy? Is that something you&#8217;re interested in?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Not at all.  I did some research on that. Carl Sagan says we all come from stars and from stardust. I felt like the table was a metaphor for the sun.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">And the characters were the stars orbiting the sun. They gravitated around this piece, and it connected them or it exploded around them. I viewed the whole star piece as just a metaphor for these relationships.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>I&#8217;m wondering if there were certain characters that appeared to you from the very beginning.</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> This idea has been percolating for a while. So, when I sat down to finally write it, I knew these were my characters. I knew I wanted to do a mother daughter dynamic. I knew I wanted couples who were best friends from college, reliving their youth at the inn.  I knew I wanted some celebrity to shake things up. And I knew I wanted to have the Renee and Paul, the owners.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I stapled six giant poster boards together and cut out pictures of celebrities from People Magazine. I&#8217;m very visual and I need to just see somebody to describe a face, the curvature of their chin. I had index cards for each day and each character had their arc and their goal for a specific scene. I had to see it visually.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Were these characters modelled after movie stars? Did you have a picture of a movie star for Leo?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> The characters that I pulled out of People magazine three or four years ago are different than who I would have envisioned today. Leo was Rob Lowe. And I had Blake Lively as Sienna, but now seeing all her troubles, I think people might not be thrilled to see Blake Lively.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong>, <strong>Did you have a particular fondness for any of the characters?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> People ask who&#8217;s your favourite character. Which is your favourite book? That&#8217;s like asking who’s your favourite child. But I loved writing Rosalie. There&#8217;s something about writing young girls. Something really pivotal must have happened to me at the age of 15.  I&#8217;m stuck in this youthful 15-year-old girl&#8217;s body and voice.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">I also loved writing, Penny and Leo.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong>? <strong>Is there a particular scene that you really loved writing?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> I loved the unpeeling of the onion at the table. I loved the last scene of the book. I loved Sienna and Lucy in the wine cellar. The scenes that are the most emotionally charged, I loved so much.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>At one point in the story, Penny, who has been married for 25 years to the Hollywood celebrity Leo, gives some advice to a younger couple who are having marital problems. She says, if there&#8217;s one thing you should focus on, it&#8217;s not whether you love this person, because the answer is yes. The real question is, can you live without this person? And if you can&#8217;t live without them, then do everything in your power to fix it. I thought that was a very wise piece of advice.</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Sometimes I wonder where (these nuggets) came from. It&#8217;s been a while since I wrote that book. You know, you get so deep into your characters, and I felt that that was something that Penny would have said, given her history with Leo.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> Yeah,</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Like you really get into character.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Might you ever write a sequel? I thought there were certain characters we’re invested in and we’re not sure what’s going to happen to them.</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Never say never. None of my books are part of a series, they&#8217;re all standalones. This one definitely lends itself to that more.  I turned in my ninth book two Fridays ago. All I can say is it&#8217;s an epic love story</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Oh, wow. You write a book in a year?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;">Rochelle: I&#8217;ve been writing a book a year, but I&#8217;m going to slow down.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>You clearly have tons of ideas. Do you write them down as they come to you?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Yes. I have a file folder called book ideas. And I actually have synopses for books ten and eleven.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena:</strong> <strong>Amazing.  I know that you recommend books for the local NBC affiliate and for some magazines. What books are you recommending?</strong></p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle: </strong>Nicola Kraus has a new book coming out <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Best-We-Could-Hope-Novel/dp/1662522649/ref=sr_1_1?crid=10Y4TORDFW716&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oWVTn9HMqGYV2pc1MPXBIvdzX-bOOGDZEOGYyeNthU8.n0KoWhTZ8ifZ53Kfd0jml6UaUav3QvEgpzsJuY47pog&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+best+we+could+hope+for+nicola+kraus&amp;qid=1740072114&amp;sprefix=the+best+we+%2Caps%2C226&amp;sr=8-1">The Best We Could Hope For</a>.  And I&#8217;m excited about Jackie Friedland&#8217;s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Counting-Backwards-Novel-Jacqueline-Friedland/dp/1400347300/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1A0GRQQD4HLP9&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.alR696Y1hkKUFZSuGq0Fb4yXbnkXhuOzb6Qb5z6c6DHGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.xtPS63rZzq5K5G0aczp-Uue-5qelF1EnTz_i88o1Wvo&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=counting+backwards+jacqueline+friedland&amp;qid=1740071869&amp;sprefix=counting+backwards%2Caps%2C262&amp;sr=8-1">Counting Backwards</a> That&#8217;s on my night table There&#8217;s obviously, the Queen, Annabelle Monaghan, I can&#8217;t wait until her new book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Its-Love-Story-Annabel-Monaghan/dp/0593714105/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2JKWA9ULNL2SK&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.IuXY0180N2iNsVrkzqCwhCkZ8lVylYD-FaqkSzyybuUvXnCyaU2d9yC_Lkyj9-AeBOIJEkJDExY4OufNcU4UkasDBPBnspDeR-KDZn9dd_BvtY6_1vBboFpetTFhd9OV8_jneZvK8kSem5boATpzm_M9XYyDbEDDXWskkGeRhL5USFvT9mbLJ8AxBa66iGVW1kPOWRIR7gCtFLSy_Bq1ZCxFVVIDWm33QCR2EB2UhhQ.tHztBUHICXHf42N-89rTJMeNgkegsq3puuauTejjn48&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=annabelle+monaghan+books&amp;qid=1740072170&amp;sprefix=anabel+mo%2Caps%2C233&amp;sr=8-3">It’s a Love Story</a> comes out. I read it and it&#8217;s of course amazing.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Elena: </strong>She&#8217;s great. I&#8217;m interviewing her in May. I think that&#8217;s it for my questions<strong>. </strong>Thank you, and good luck with all your writing.</p>
<p style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Rochelle:</strong> Thank you, Elena. I appreciate it. It was a pleasure talking to you.</p>
<p><em>February, 2025</em></p>
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		<title>Highlights from My Chat with Anastasia Rubis, author of Oriana</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p> I spoke with Anastasia Rubis, who goes by Stacy, the author of Oriana, a wonderful moving novel about the trailblazing Italian journalist, Oriana Fallaci. Oriana was an international superstar, arguably the best journalist in the world in the 1960s and 70s. She was a woman in a man&#8217;s world, which makes her accomplishments that much...</p>
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<p class="Script"> I spoke with Anastasia Rubis, who goes by Stacy, the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Audible-Oriana-Novel-Fallaci/dp/B0DJRMDB9K/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TFSGVWFE82ZU&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-lTu5vuVz6ByZxAzNLUwWOC0g718cxtJja-gaDngHMTuw43ypjD4_yYLciwvnAnmjpI_xK1Q5jxby1cJIZPj5NYGNif5SnwhVJcpQdzGCqWzua0CoJS8xvN4TnSAYG6ecaQYt7xaMszH0Rdoi8YAqkzIPQjU35n5we5xLkxzpt-RieqHcSkzZhyy44uIdFvElZx5s_cmNX-DTPxHHpzz17jYPYmpF8Q9G64SPv_nWkQ.pVymv7QXXJA8cNwscRFGLTdoZALA7mE4P5lXb9xptWk&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=oriana&amp;qid=1739133132&amp;sprefix=oriana%2Caps%2C108&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Oriana</a>, a wonderful moving novel about the trailblazing Italian journalist, Oriana Fallaci. Oriana was an international superstar, arguably the best journalist in the world in the 1960s and 70s. She was a woman in a man&#8217;s world, which makes her accomplishments that much more impressive.</p>
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<p class="Script">For some reason, Oriana is not as well known in the States as she is in Europe, which hopefully will change with Stacy&#8217;s debut novel. Christiane Amanpour said Oriana&#8217;s penetrative, fearless interviews with world leaders, as well as celebrities of the day, should be required reading for all journalism students.</p>
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<p class="Script">I&#8217;ll be honest, when I started the book, I worried that it would be too dry, too intellectual for me. But Oriana was anything but dry. She was fiery, feisty, quick witted, extremely intelligent, a romantic, passionate, not to mention attractive and glamorous. I was soon swept away by the humanity in Oriana&#8217;s take on the world.</p>
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<p class="Script">Below are some edited highlights from my conversation with Stacy Rubis. You can listen to the entire episode <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com/p/elena-meets-anastasia-rubis?r=huv3q&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;triedRedirect=true" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a> on <a href="https://elenabowes.substack.com/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elena Meets the Author</a> or wherever you listen to podcasts.</p>
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<h1>Oriana&#8217;s Fearless Interview Style</h1>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:  Hello Stacy. I loved your book. I was just so impressed how fearless Oriana was when interviewing leaders of the day. </b></p>
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<p class="Script"> Exactly. My favorite quote of hers is, ‘I&#8217;m not intimidated by anybody.’ She interviewed Colonel Qaddafi, the Ayatollah Khomeini, Yasser Arafat amongst others. These are people with guns and guards in the room. They&#8217;re dictators and she just goes for it.</p>
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<p class="Script">She asks the most provocative, persistent, impolite questions and she&#8217;s not afraid to do that and I find that amazing.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena: I have a quote from you where you talk about your favorite Oriana lines:  ‘You must be joking’ to a dictator who lied in answer to her question. There were armed guards in the room. And she prodded Gaddafi, “You don&#8217;t remember? You should. And also to Gaddafi, “I want to understand why everyone dislikes you so much.” To Kissinger, “Unless I&#8217;m mistaken, you&#8217;re a very cold man, Dr. Kissinger.&#8221; Do you have a favorite interview?</b></p>
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<p class="Script"> The Kissinger one, but also, I really love the  interview with the then prime minister of Israel, Golda Meir. Golda and Oriana really hit it off. Oriana really respected Golda. She met Golda in her home in Tel Aviv. It was a very simple home. The housekeeper had gone home. Golda served coffee and cookies and washed her own dishes. They had a serious conversation about peace in the Middle East, but then Golda opened up to Oriana as a woman about the heartbreak of her life. And it was basically that Golda was in love with the same man from the age of 15, and they married, and they had children, but Golda really wanted a bigger life on the world stage, and he wanted a quieter life.</p>
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<p class="Script">And so that led to their separation. But Golda told Oriana that she loved him until the day he died. And I think that Oriana understood from Golda that sometimes love is not enough. That for a woman who has ambition, it’s really hard to make it work. And I think Oriana was already experiencing that in her own life, to meld the professional and the personal.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <b>That was great aspect to your book, the conflict Oriana had forever, that she was this fantastic journalist, but she grew up knowing in Italy you had to be a wife and a mother, and take care of your husband, and have children, and no matter how successful she was, she didn&#8217;t have that.</b></p>
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<p class="Script"> She called it a full life that she wanted, which is family and a profession. She was born in 1929. So, she would be almost a hundred today and there weren&#8217;t many role models for women who were doing both. Succeeding at home, succeeding in the world. And that&#8217;s what I find so poignant about Oriana&#8217;s story. As tough as she was- she basically elbowed her way to the top of a male dominated field, she never went to university. she was born poor, she barely spoke English when she came to the United States &#8211; she made it to the point where Newsweek called her the greatest interviewer of her time. Dick Cavett introduced her on his show as a legend. She made it to the top, and yet, there was a price to pay for a woman of her generation.</p>
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<p class="Script">I find that incredibly poignant and that&#8217;s really what I wanted to be at the heart of my book. What I found surprising in doing events and talking about Oriana to people is that young women really relate to the novel. Which makes me happy in one way, but sad in another, because we are still dealing with the challenges that Oriana had, which are work life balance, reproductive rights, and sexism in the workplace. The fact that young women can still relate today really says something.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <b>As successful as the chain-smoking Oriana was, she struggled at love. She seemed to fall for the wrong men, men who were jealous of her success, until she met Alexander Panagoulis, a Greek poet and resistance fighter, ten years her junior.</b> <b>So, I&#8217;m guessing, that a lot of the fabulous love scenes in your book are drawn from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Man-Oriana-fallaci/dp/0671252410/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1X53UPDO67K3J&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3g20kSkivO7RaysG7G7ILGRrGifrlzctfEWOw7WSpD4FB3vLESlFH3_YQz-jX2kCBe2yC9Kt86zovmXEHOCId7dfVL9YkJqZv-9KDxvy7Ap12z1XmOvgD_TfoB8q8I5r7TZSVM21GxHXcHaKhqcDd5Ia12IosQeqiJYktN7aegjJTGDIo4-IvIKrNvhq3xsk.zeibm1q99qb4dpmvUfe9RTEalP77mE4nxUyskD9xYPU&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=a+man+oriana+fallaci&amp;qid=1739133172&amp;sprefix=a+man+oriana%2Caps%2C105&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">A Man, </a>Oriana’s book about Alexander?</b></p>
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<p class="Script"> The scenes are based on reality, but they&#8217;re fictionalized.  I&#8217;m a big romantic, and I think Oriana and Alexander is one of the greatest love stories that we don&#8217;t know.</p>
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<p class="Script">It has passion and politics. She was 10 years older than him. They lived in different countries. She was the powerful one in the couple. She was at the peak of her journalism profession when she met him, and he was just out of prison. He didn&#8217;t have a job. He didn&#8217;t have money.</p>
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<p class="Script">A couple of journalists have called the book sexy.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <strong>The story is definitely sexy.</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> It was an electric love affair, very charged. They had real values and ideals and were willing to give up a lot for those ideals. So, it&#8217;s very dramatic. Alexander is a real figure. He resisted Greece&#8217;s dictatorship from 1967 to 1974. He almost sacrificed his life to get rid of the dictator. He was thrown into jail, was tortured for five years and when he got out, he still didn&#8217;t stop and he was eventually elected to Parliament He decided to try to affect change from the inside. But his enemies assassinated him and made it look like a car accident.</p>
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<p class="Script">And so, again, a very dramatic, true story. Oriana loved him for those last three years that he was alive. They were together in Italy and in Greece. She calls him her great love. I think he reminded her a lot of her father who resisted Italy&#8217;s occupation and who fought for freedom and human rights and for the little people. And that was the same with Alexander.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <strong>Alexander wasn&#8217;t diminished by her success at all. He was so proud of her.</strong></p>
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<p class="Script"> In prison, he read her books. He said reading her books gave him the fire and the courage to stay alive in prison.</p>
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<p class="Script"><b>Elena:</b> <b>And this is all before he even met her?</b></p>
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<p class="Script">Yes. So basically, he fell in love with her by reading her books, and then when he got out of prison, by some kismet, some universal coincidence, she decided to go interview him. So, she left Italy and went to Athens on his third day of freedom to interview him. She stole the assignment from somebody else at her newspaper.</p>
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<p class="Script">Somebody else was supposed to go to interview the Greek freedom fighter. And she&#8217;s like, no, I will go, and she did. And it was love at first sight.</p>
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<p>The post <a href="https://elenabowes.com/highlights-from-my-chat-with-anastasia-rubis-author-of-oriana/">Highlights from My Chat with Anastasia Rubis, author of Oriana</a> appeared first on <a href="https://elenabowes.com">Elena Bowes</a>.</p>
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